Preston Ely claims to be known as “The King Of Wholesaling” and in a video on one of his websites offers to “make you rich” after you enter your name and email address in his name capture page, after which he’ll send his “cash rake” report to you.
I don’t know Preston Ely and have no experience with his products. I prefer to assume that people can do exactly what they say they can do unless I have evidence to the contrary. And in Preston Ely’s case, I have no such evidence.
But I do want to know what you think! Have you purchased Preston Ely’s e-book? Are you a client of his coaching program or of his Probate investing products? If so, sound off below with your comments and reviews.
Thanks for reading FreeRealEstateTraining.com!
UPDATE
This has been truly interesting. I’m writing this update 12 hours after the original publication of this post. Hundreds of posts and thousands of comments have been written on this website, and in every single case, the commanding percentage of people who have left comments or reviews have been people who are subscribers and regular readers of this blog.
With this post, a huge percentage of the comments came from people who have never visited this website before. What does this suggest? One thing it means is that a bunch of people who are not normal readers of this website were sent here to make comments. Furthermore, it’s clear based on some evidence (primarily IP addresses) that there is at least one person who has made multiple comments under different names.
I make no judgment for or against Preston Ely. I have approved every comment, including the ones that are literally worshipful of Preston. But the nature of some of the comments from people who have never had any connection to this website before has led me to conclude a new policy may be helpful to protect those of you who read this blog regularly from reviews that are pure fluff.
Here’s what I’ll do: anybody can read the real estate guru reviews here on FreeRealEstateTraining.com, and I think everyone should. But I’ll only allow reviews if the reviewer is already a subscriber and/or regular reader of this website.
Furthermore, if a reviewer fails to actually make a statement of fact rather than just puffy opinion pieces (such as singing the praises of someone’s “awesomeness”), I just won’t publish them. This isn’t a democracy, so don’t complain to me about any “right to be heard”. My only job is to try to make this website as helpful and useful to my readers as possible, so comments made after this point that are absolutely idiotic (you’ll know them if you write them) won’t be approved.
There have been more totally absurd comments made about the topic of this post by people who don’t normally read this website than for all of the hundreds of other posts on this blog combined. That is, all by itself, quite telling.
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I don’t know this guy either but wow does he think he’s the ****. A little nauseating if you ask me.
I have obtained a few of his ebooks which had very good information. Customer service, however, was lacking in that he does not respond to emails.
Hi Everyone,
I have ordered some of Preston’s very reasonably priced products. He speaks very plainly and doesn’t try to complicate things when it comes to wholesaling or probate. On the confidence front–he is very sure of himself, and it comes through in everything. He is from that “generation”, and it can be a little much at times. . .but, overall, he is a good person and I believe he really wants to help anyone he can.
I know the guy. I like the guy. I have used his stuff, and have taken on his coaching. Is he for everybody? Maybe not. But then again, I have taken other well known “guru” courses and haven’t really made much money, per se, plenty of good ideas and guidance, but they still left a lot of holes. This guy is really good at inspiring people to take action, and in the end, isn’t that what makes you money? Just using one of his ideas combined with something from another investors arsenal has made me 10k so far in the past 6 weeks. So, he’s the second person who’s ideas I’ve used that have actually worked for me, maybe now the only persons because the lease option deal I did six months ago is starting to look shaky now. So, for what it’s worth, Preston Ely is good in my book, my investment was returned and then some.
The guru review, I personally know Preston and I think you may have jumped the gun by calling someone arrogant if you have not stood in their face and look them directly in their eyes man to man. from Bryan: Not so. Is Rush Limbaugh arrogant? Was Muhammad Ali arrogant? I rest my case. — Bryan Ellis I will admit Preston is a Love me or Hate me kind of guy, but I also know he is a man of faith, and integrity behind his persona.
Preston also is the real deal when it comes to wholesaling, and he has the checks and the credentials to back that up. So from a guru stand point I would say he is qualified to educate, and from a personal stand point either you like him or you don’t. However it is not just to judge someone and call them arrogant until you look that person in the eye and have a true face to face encounter. Once you have done that then you have more room to make an assessment.
I don’t think anyone here is questioning Preston Ely’s credentials as a real estate investor. In fact, if you read the post that started this thread, I specifically said I have no reason to doubt him. But the notion that you can’t know if a person is arrogant without knowing them personally is asinine. Preston Ely actually uses these exact words in one of his sales letter: “Dude, where have you been? EVERYone knows me!!! I’m the life of this whole party commonly known as EARTHLY EXISTENCE!!!”. That’s prima facie evidence of arrogance. But arrogance doesn’t preclude him from making good products or being an expert in real estate, just means his life experience hasn’t yet taught him the value of humility, or that he’s adopted an arrogant public persona for marketing reasons. I don’t know which it is. –Bryan Ellis
I think his “flip your way to financial freedom” was a little basic, but i guess it was designed for newbies that have no clue about investing. It gives you almost the same information that you can find in all the other Guru type materials. If you are new to investing you can’t go wrong for the price, but if you have experience with the basics from other gurus, save your money.
I ordered his “Probates by Preston” course and was disappointed in the content. His customer service is non-existent. It took a few emails to find out where to return the product. Fortunately I returned it with delivery confirmation so I know that it was delivered. Weeks later I still have not received replies to my emails requesting the status of my refund. Given the lack of response I was forced to file a dispute with my credit card company.
Those actions, or lack thereof, show me a lot about the individual. His arrogance exceeds his business capabilities!
I have never ordered any of his stuff but I have read his emails and watched his teleseminars. He comes across as a cocky person but he seems to really care about teaching others. With that said, he does do stupid stuff like he wears a wig during his teleseminars which is when he becomes disco Dan. It’s so ridiculous but it’s who he is. Another thing that for some reason annoys me is how he is in the “in group” of gurus (Chris Chico, Tim Mai) and they just go on each others teleseminars all the time selling each others stuff. Preston wears a shirt all the time saying “I love Tim Mai”. These other people seem to know what they are talking about but I just wish they went about it in a different way but again, that is the way they choose to do business.
i think he’s a pretty cool guy
Love,
Pre$ton
Welcome, Preston. Hope you’ll stop by frequently. — Bryan Ellis
S.A., I’m so glad you posted because I was seriously considering “Probates by Preston.”
I think anyone needs to understand that 99.9% of the gurus out there have also graduated from “Dan Kennedy’s Wild Hyperbole, Gross Exaggeration and Outright Lies School of Marketing.” (In fact, I’m leaving in a few minutes to attend a lecture by Dan Kennedy at the Anaheim Convention Center. I just gotta see what all the drool for Dan is about.)
No matter what you’re pitching, if you follow Kennedy’s modus operandi, it’s the greatest thing since you-know-what. Couple that with the unbridled enthusiasm of youth and you get Preston Ely. I call him Presto! Ely because if you implement his stuff, “Presto! Yer rich!”
If you do sign up for Preston’s marketing campaign, you’ll never get out of his funnel. He think if he just wears you down, you’ll eventually buy SOMETHING from him. He just may be right.
Caitlyn - you know I value your opinion as we’ve discussed before, and you know that I too find over-the-top sensationalism distasteful. But come on - if all you can say is that a person is an aggressive marketer who follows the “Dan Kennedy” school of thinking, that’s not much of a criticism, really. — Bryan Ellis
Customer service levels say it all. Not honoring refunds is the same as stealing in my book
Probates by Preston really work. I have recived a 10% respond rate on the mailers itself( not bad for sending only 25 letters).He might look arrogant to somes but to others is a good person. He is what he is,that is his personality.I can tell you that his course is worth every penny otherwise we would’n be talking about it.
As one of Preston’s students I can tell you that he truly cares about his students and wants us all to succeed. He’s got his quirks. And? I’ve got to tell you that for every weird thing he does, which, by the way tend to make me laugh so hard I almost fall out of my chair, he will provide an inspiring tip, story, or motivational quote. For those of you that are unsure of Preston, I can only tell you to experience his teaching for yourself. If you apply what he tells you and do what YOU need to do, you’ll be successful. That goes for any guru. Now, for those of you with the issues of customer support. I can’t say I’m exactly in your shoes as I believe students receive great email responses. I always have. My guess is that the emails from students are the first priority and info and general customer service are left for the ticketing system. Hopefully that gets better. Make great help is out blogging. Ha Anyway, my opinion is biased and I thought everyone would like to hear from one of his students. Thanks.
Mark
Go with your gut! A little too much GOD TALK for me!
Preston has been nothing if not forthright in all his dealings with me. I have purchased a few of his materials and am now in the early stages of his coaching/mentoring program. It is true that I am not a seasoned real estate professional, having only been involved in it actively for the last 4 years ( most of that time spent trying to learn the language and developing my personal approach ), but I must say that all of the info he has presented is square right on. Admittedly he does come across as somewhat of a flaming rock star, but hey, it works for him. I don’t find his personality to be abrasive or arrogant, he is simply confident in his methods and teachings. Plus, the proof is in the pudding and his methods are working EVERYDAY and not 2 or 3 years ago.
As every single person here will surely attest, even the most perfect system and home-study program in the world will not bring in one red cent until it is followed by action and put into motion. I feel he is a perfect example of what can be accomplished when one “gets their mind right” and proceeds as if they can not fail. His is an approach that in no uncertain terms tells students to “go ninety or go home” because he understands the power that lies within all of us. The power to change our own worlds and to achieve great things for ourselves and our loved ones is not something that just happens by itself. It must be purposed in our hearts and believed in our minds and sought after with vigor and conviction by our actions. It is not the good life on the other side of the mountain that stops the vast majority of wanna-be millionaires from this journey. It is the climb to the top of the mountain and getting over the top through perseverance and sheer determination that keep the masses locked in their current states of being.
To some the GOD talk may be a turn off. It has been touched upon here previously that this is neither a political nor a religious forum, but as we live in a free society and the greatest country on earth that was established “under GOD” it is fine with me if someone who has accomplished much is willing to admit that they also believe.
I looked very hard to find a mentor and coach that I felt I could work with. In my search, there were many types of coaching available with ideas as varied as their own personalities. I even tried a few. Preston’s get it done NOW attitude was the fit for me. I received his “Flip Factor” Newsletter for month’s while I searched through and used other coaches and systems. None of the other coaches are as motivating as Preston and his crew. Emails are answered timely and with direction and calls to action. If your looking for pampering, he may not be for you. If you need someone to kick you in the seat of your pants to get YOU going, then I beleive he IS your guy. I have spent alot of time and effort to find the right fit for me and my goals, and so far(3 months) with Preston’s guidance I am well on my way. I can move on deals with a confidence that I would not have had without Preston’s team working with me. (Preston promised me a Tim Mai t-shirt if I said nice things about him)…..(Just kidding!)
Yes, I ordered Ely’s ebook in 2007. For $47 , I found it to be less than specific and full of holes. And then, lo and behold, he comes out with a wholesaling course. What a surprise! I get very annoyed at instructors who pull stunts like that, so I refuse to order his course; my guess is that it won’t be detailed and after you order it, you’ll get a call from his staff to push the expensive mentoring program. His youth coupled with what I perceive to be cockyness turns me off. I’ll skip on this clown until he matures and the reviews point to buy or don’t buy.
PRESTON IS AWESOME!!!!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE AWESOMENESS!!!!
Why was I yelling, because i bought this guy’s book for $50, put out bandit signs and got deals under contract by doing what he and his team tell me. So when I hear people say anything negative about him it just irks me!!! THEY ARE GREAT AT WHAT THEY DO!! He is the REAL DEAL!!
Confident YES! Maybe a little flashy, YES! Do I care, NO!
I really think the only people who think he’s an arrogant punk is because they WISH they had the confidence he did and are miserable and jealous of his personality and lifestyle.
Who called Preston Ely a punk? Nobody here did - I wouldn’t allow it, because to call someone a “punk” is childish and very “middle school”. But then again, based on the caliber of some of these reviews, “middle school” may be the least common denominator of communication that’s necessary to include some of you people. You know who you are. — Bryan Ellis
His coaching program and ebook alone have helped me out with my confidence and BELIEF in myself to start the real estate game, when NOONE else did. He’s a great motivator and a really good guy at heart. Just because he might not return your emails and say something that hurts your feelings doesn’t make him a jerk.
That last sentence is really quite amusing in its contradictory nature. You might wish to work a little harder next time. –Bryan Ellis
Anyway, sorry to sound so rude but his stuff works and it’s really not about him making the “cash come in” its about ‘you” and how you apply his knowledge. Peace Out!
Jason - feel free to return here to worship Preston more in the future. But when you do, please be specific about why he has achieved “awesomeness”. –Bryan Ellis
S.A. on August 5th, 2008 at 11:53 am
I ordered his “Probates by Preston” course and was disappointed in the content. His customer service is non-existent. It took a few emails to find out where to return the product. Fortunately I returned it with delivery confirmation so I know that it was delivered. Weeks later I still have not received replies to my emails requesting the status of my refund. Given the lack of response I was forced to file a dispute with my credit card company.
Those actions, or lack thereof, show me a lot about the individual. His arrogance exceeds his business capabilities!
Jason- Um…did you even try it out? I have the same product and I get a killer response rate on the mailers and have 10 offers out on properties that will eventually fold and sell. It’s good stuff so I understand you have your own opinion but REALLY DISAGREE.
Take my advice and let me tell you PROBATES BY PRESTON WORKS IF YOU USE IT!
Jason, the issue isn’t whether the product works. It’s fine for you to prop up Preston but that’s not what is at issue in S.A.’s comment. — Bryan Ellis
Pre$ton=Whole$alingRock$tar you are all jealous! In all seriousness he preaches “TAKING ACTION”( thats the most important thing) and for those who have not done anything with his courses it just doesnt make sense, why waste your time and his? Preston exudes confidence, promotes positivity and proves that anyone can be successful at wholesaling houses with the right aittitude. His courses are full of rich content! For a newbie following his action plan is great and each week I am making strides. I havent made a deal yet but this is not get rich quick..when I do i’ll post it right on this blog.
Cheer$
RJ
Well, I just enrolled in his mentoring program so at this moment in time have no commentss good or bad to write.Yes some of his antics can get on your nerves but it is a free world and none of us are perfect.If this mentoring proves to be not worth while in the future I will certainly post my remarks here.I guess getting rich in real estate takes a considerable amount of effort and “Good Luck” and hard work pushing your idenitity to the public.
Preston is a joke and his course is so basic and I can go the library and get better material. The guy looks like a freak to and does not even invest in real estate. STAY AWAY AT ALL COST!!!!!!
Thanks for your comments. Please be sure you have substantiation if you’re going to make a claim like that. For the record, I have no opinion one way or the other of Preston Ely. As I know more, I’ll notify the FreeRealEstateTraining.com e-Newsletter (the net’s fastest-growing real estate investor e-mail list) which you can join near the top right side of this page. And be sure to check out all of the comments that appear above this one on this page. — Bryan Ellis
Dan Stojadinovic here. Preston spoke at my HypeFreebootcamp is very real. Hi products are priced below what others charge! I think most people fail not because of Preston, but because they don’t apply what he teaches. What makes is successful is that he is action oriented and is speed of implementation is fast! I read his wholesaling ebook and HE SHOULD CHARGE 1000% MORE FOR THAT INFORMATION! Just my 2 cents!
Thanks for your comments Dan. — Bryan Ellis
Hi everyone. I heard the commotion about Preston all the way out here in New Mexico and I just want to add my $.02….As you can tell from the divergent *opinions* expressed here, one thing is clear: “nothing has any meaning except the meaning *you* give it.” I’ve been investing for 15 years, and teaching for about 5, and I can tell you that there’s been many a so called “Guru” I’ve met that I’ve felt like I had to shower off the thin coat of slime that they left behind, not so with Preston. Maybe you don’t like something about him or perhaps his style of promotion isn’t your cup of tea? I often have to point out that the very thing they don’t like in others are in fact mirrors reflecting back something they don’t like about themselves and should be used for what they are: learning opportunities. Some of you should chew on that a while. And if you’ve ever set up any business, let alone a an information marketing business, I’m sure you realzie there are a ton of moving parts.
I’ve seen this guy in action and hung out with him, and if there are refund or other customer service issues, I have no doubt Preston will take care of it. And if for any reason I’m proven wrong, not only will I throw a hypno-whammy on him so fast that Disco Dan’s hair will spontaneously combust; I’ll also come write about it here and on my own blog. (Whenever I get that thing set up!)
Peace
Doug Ottersberg
Preston’s become a friend of mine in the last year. I met him right before he became “internet famous”.
In fact, the probate course he’s about to re-release was put together based on the 4 hour Saturday Workshop he and I did together last year.
It was a killer call, with a lot of great content (Preston and I both started in Probate deals). If/when you listen to the audios, it’ll be my voice along with his you’ll hear.
Having said that, I’m not receiving royalties or anything from the course. Just so that you know my remarks aren’t financially motivated.
Preston’s a love-him-or-hate-him kind of guy, to be sure. He understands and completely embraces the idea that there’s ALWAYS power in not being afraid to polarize your audience.
Luke warm doesn’t sell. It’s also not memorable. So those who don’t like him, really don’t like him. But those who do, are often “addicted” to him.
I can’t say I agree with everything about how Preston puts himself off. But I can say that I think he’s an honest guy, admittedly flawed (who isn’t?) and has others’ best interests at heart.
Customer service…being somewhat in the info marketing business as well as real estate, I can say this is always a challenge. But if someone wants to return a product, I’m positive he’s not going to dishonor their request. You should be dealing with his assistant, Yvette, anyway.
My suggestion is you take Preston’s persona with a grain of salt. And even if you’re turned off by his style, don’t underestimate his ability to take BOLD, FAST ACTION, and thereby experience success that many tamer people never will simply because they’re still standing there trying to wait until everything “feels right” and “makes sense” to them.
My $.02
…jp moses
** But come on - if all you can say is that a person is an aggressive marketer who follows the “Dan Kennedy” school of thinking, that’s not much of a criticism, really. **
Well, I just returned from Dan Kennedy’s 4-hour free workshop on “what’s working now.” He said, and I quote, “Once you get a contact in your system, it [the system] becomes a cul de sac. They don’t get out until they die.”
I’d call that a little more than “aggressive.” I’d call that stalking. Some marketers see nothing wrong with this “technique.” I got stuck in a Kennedy devotee’s “cul de sac.” I finally had to send a certified cease-and-desist letter with a copy to the FTC. It got to the point where I was receiving an email, a voicemail, a fax or a direct mail piece EVERY SINGLE DAY from S**** T*****.
Presto! isn’t that bad, but pretty close.
I’ll readily admit that Kennedy is hard-core in the way he teaches people to follow up with their prospects. But Kennedy is painfully aware of the FTC and other government regulators as well. I guess I’m inclined to defend him a bit because though I don’t follow his model directly, I’ve learned a lot of incredibly valuable lessons from him. To each his (or her) own! — Bryan Ellis
BTW, I found Presto’s emails amusing. He really should be writing for a sitcom.
** I often have to point out that the very thing they don’t like in others are in fact mirrors reflecting back something they don’t like about themselves and should be used for what they are: learning opportunities. Some of you should chew on that a while. **
Careful, Dr. Doug, or you’ll “should” all over yourself.
While in Preston’s coaching program last year, He and I made $97,200 flipping 12 houses in 9 months. This was done on a part-time basis on my part for most of the year, while still working 32 hours a week in a hospital. For all the people in this thread desparaging Preston’s e-book, that book contains the EXACT program I used while in the coaching program (before the e-book was released). I would be interested in finding out how Mr. Stanley and Ms. Coyle did flipping houses last year. By the way Mr. Stanley, if you think Preston Ely doesn’t invest in real estate you have obviously never been to Tampa Florida, where he is known as one of the best. As far as e-mail response is concerned, mine have always been answered within 24 business hours by either Preston or his assistant Yvette. Preston Ely is one of the best things that ever happened to me. He tells it the way he sees it, and lives his life the way he and only he decides, and that makes a lot of people uncomfortable, as evidenced by some of the comments posted here. All I can say is he and I made A LOT of money together-if you want comfort, go somewhere else, if you want to make money flipping houses, Preston is the real deal.
Thank you for posting some results-oriented comments, unlike the other utterly foolish comments that praise Preston for nothing other than his self-proclaimed “awesomeness”. Ick. — Bryan Ellis
I am a newer student of Preston, and I give him a big thumbs up. Even if my personality is much different than Preston’s, his teaching resonates the most with me. His strengths are in motivating and working on the mind to believe that this business works. This belief has led me to action, and I have started getting seller leads in.
I’ll post here when I get my first deal.
Preston Ely loves life, and he has the money to enjoy life to the fullest. He initially received his wealth through real estate investing before he became a \guru.\ I don’t know him personally, but I am familair with him and would like to know him. I appreciate his emails, which can be a form of learning and adding to one’s investing knowledge. Don’t hate. Appreciate. Also is there anything wrong with a positive, fun loving, upbeat person?
Don’t hate? Why did you even say that? –Bryan Ellis
I ~(blushes)~
I - I ~(stammers)~
I…I w-w-w-w-wish I…WAS Pre$ton Ely!!!!!
Dang - have you seen his wife?
haha! No - really - I am on his contact drip - enjoy reading
his emails - haven’t bought any of his stuff - and am on the verge
of implementing somebody elses course. ~(sigh)~ See - I wanna
write that the big heat is almost over here in Las Vegas - and that I plan on spending the winter making a big mess here with real
estate - making mistakes along the way till I get success - yet I feel inhibited ‘cuz I’ve still got that whole invasion of privacy
thing going on with my employer FORD MOTOR CREDIT in Henderson, NV. I’m just gonna tell everybody I plan on doing business with that employees where I work hack anything and everything I do on the interwebz - I’ve had incidents where they got the pin number to the answering machine on my phone THE DAY I CHANGED IT - and so I’m worried more about them mucking up my contacts and stuff than I am about people saying no to my marketing.
Heh. In this market - I’ve probably got more to worry about the people who say YES! I’m undercapitalized - and I’m tapped out on funds for purchasing ennymore real estate stuff.
And actually? I think Preston’s confidence and get it done now style would work real well here - I’m all for the guy.
THANKS!
Ok, “Joe”. Some people’s writing just exudes a lack of credibility. And yours is strangely similar to several other comments we’ve had today. Hmmmmmm. –Bryan Ellis
**I’d call that a little more than “aggressive.” I’d call that stalking.**
Did you get all your knowledge without the help of others? I personally listen in on alot of webinars if for no other reason to see what is out there and what the big ballers are using. I come away with something of value from all of them often without investing anything but my ear. Its a great learning tool. I say send me more! I know how to ‘unsubscribe’ if it is of no value.
That’s the point. Some gurus–NOT talking about Presto!–won’t let you unsubscribe. S**** T***** ignored numerous requests to unsubscribe so I had to report him to the FTC. He sent not one but TWO CDs titled “What Others Say About Me.” He’s got an ego the size of Brazil.
I, too, listen nearly every day to a guru of some type or another. I have an email account set up for guru spam. I receive nearly 30 solicitations per day from gurus. Nearly ALL of them–Bryan Ellis being the exception–are mirror images of Dan Kennedy’s marketing style. The gurus endorse each other–(it’s actually a small world out there)–and meet ‘n greet at Dan Kennedy infopreneur boot camps.
The “small world” comment is more true than you know. And when a person gets “blacklisted” in that group, the repurcussions are vile. Just a side note. — Bryan Ellis
Only one, however (Ron LeGrand), had the ethics to actually say to a group of real estate investor wannabes” “You all need to really just get in the information marketing business. I’ve made more money marketing how to make money in real estate than I ever made actually investing in real estate.”
To an extent, I agree. The problem with that advice is that it encourages unqualified people to be in the “guru” business. But Ron LeGrand is definitely right about this much: The barrier between making your first buck in real estate is much higher than in making your first buck in information marketing. — Bryan Ellis
To the poster above who says “Presto! is the best thing that ever happened to me,” well, good on ya. But with RE gurus coming out of the woodwork, it’s now a challenge to decide which is most deserving of the TIME it takes to master the material provided. That’s why a discussion of HOW the guru says what he says is just as relevant as WHAT he says.
(I saw two local RE gurus at Dan Kennedy’s event today–Terry Hale and Robert Lee. I’m certain there were a few other as yet un-hatched gurus in the audience. LOL)
The fact that this blog or whatever it is,seems to be dedicated to him does not surprise me. (Note from Bryan - this blog is not dedicated to Preston Ely. A single page of this blog is dedicated to my reader’s reviews of Preston.) I am his sister and wouldnt buy anybook from him. But thats because I dont like real estate and I am a proud stay at home mom of three. But I know my brother better then any of you and I know he wouldnt sell or teach anything that he wouldnt sell or teach me(if i had the desire). If preston says he has the answer…he probly does. But that doesnt mean he is for everyone. The people that bash him and dont have anything good to say about him…are people he wouldnt hang out with anyways and probly are just a bit on the intimidated side. And just remember that he isnt sweating even a bitt over who says what about him. I know him…HE LAUGHS! But thats just because he is confident. And that saying you might have heard on myspace probly applies to him…”Keep talking about me,Your just making me famous!”Anyways,I dont really care about any of this stuff. LIke I said I am a mom of three and right at this moment I have three kids screamin and I am using my last nerve to write this.So with all that said, i enjoyed reading this page and think you (bryan)manage it well. Preston I love you…refund that guys money and keep up the good work. God first always though!
Much Love,Lo’
Lauren, I haven’t “bashed” Presto! I’ve only said that his style isn’t for me, even as I enjoy his emails because at least they’re humorous. I think he’s missing his calling–Hollywood beckons!
But I wonder about a self-appointed guru who doesn’t give a fig about how he comes across. Most of the well-established gurus manage to be neutral (but still enthusiastic) in their presentation. They’re “Everyman” to whom anyone can relate because they don’t, for the most part, rub people the wrong way. Presto! seems to enjoy rubbing people the wrong way; in fact, I recall an email wherein he expressed delight in rubbing people the wrong way. What’s the point?
I also think Presto! is new to his comfortable cash flow. He posted a video on YouTube where he escorted viewers through what looked to be an extremely modest apartment and pointed out the “amenities” as if the place was a mansion. I mean, come on. Formica countertops are not all that and a bag o’ chips. His “crib” doesn’t even have a foyer.
Presto! is simply young and emotionally unintelligent. When he gets more adjusted to his “skin,” he’ll look back at the crude presentation of his early days and say, “What was I thinkin’?!”
Chalk it up to youthful exuberance. Everything’s relative.
What follows is the FIFTH guru spam I received over 48 hours re Presto!’s latest offering from FIVE different “buddies” of Presto! The text is exactly the same for each email spam I received.
Caitlin, I have MAJOR news to share! And don’t
***
Why are probates allegedly the newest “in” thing? Because Presto! did a probate deal and he liked it! LOL Welcome to the fraternity of RE gurus.
I purchased his ebook and i thought it sucked.
The guy is a real estate wholesaler who has become
one of these internet marketing hucksters.
His probate course could be ok. But I will not spend my
money with him anymore.
So preston take your hot chick out on a date for me with my $50
bucks!
Ben
Just e-mailing again to comment about the unavailability of probate files in n.y.c.Althought they should be available to the general public,the lawyers seem to have put a stranglehold on access.When you try to get a file the clerk demands to know if you are family or a lawyer handling the case.I’m guessing that in a big city they try to control it all until they can give a buddy an insider scoop.Please get back to me if you are familiar with this issue,as it will bite you in the behind if the same holds true for places like California and other large States.Please tell me I’m missing something and I’ll be a happy camper.Confirm this with disco dan!
Bryan, I do enjoy your emails and blogs and read them every day. This one seems to have gotten a bit out of control. In my opinion, there are many good people (I hate the term guru) helping others learn about investing in real estate and most of them making alot of money doing so. It seems to me that most people that have attained success in this business and are teaching, have an ego, and maybe that just comes along with it and I can accept a certain amount of that. My background is that I have a masters degree, taught high school special education, served many years in the Marines in a Recon unit, served on a special forces (green beret) team in afghanistan, and upon returning, started a real estate investing business. In the few years that I have been doing this, I have purchased millions in real estate assets including single family and multi family properties, and my family is finally living without having to worry about finances being tight. I love this business. I did purchase the ebook from Preston Ely, and considering I have two complete bookcases full of real estate investing material, did not really find it useful. I alse received his emails on a regular bases. I personally like Lou Brown, Ron Legrand, and Dustin Griffen. They all are good, and all are a bit arrogant. I had difficulty with Preston’s attitude of “I am so cool” and the black painted fingernails and all the bling bling finally made me nautious.
Jim: Above all, thank you for your service to our country. I am genuinely grateful to you for that. This guy Preston is a different breed. Personality wise, I find some of it pretty distasteful. BUT, I can’t say that I’ve found any actual reasons to criticize his content or business practices, other than the one guy who wants a refund and may well have received it by now. That’s why I’ve continued to allow more comments, because while Preston Ely does not match my style, I’m not aware of any reason to really criticize him. — Bryan Ellis
Thanks Bryan. It is nice that some people appreciate that others put their lives on the line for their freedom. Usually what we hear are the people that live in their quiet peaceful homes, have no clue what is going on around them, and then have the nerve to put us down. My soapbox, sorry. Back to the thread. Everyone has a different style, and I too find his style distastful. I need to be able to admire and respect those that I will be learning from. I am sure that some people like his style and may become successful with his materials, and I wish them the best.
MAN,I HOPE THIS FORUM IS NOT EVIDENCE OF A BIGGER OUTSIDE PICTURE. IN OTHER WORDS,SO MANY OF US JUST CAN’T BE PEACEFULLY OBJECTIVE. WE WILL JUMP AT THE CHANCE TO (EXERT?) NEGATIVE ENERGY & COMMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE & THINGS. IF YOU LIKE THE GUY,GREAT. IF NOT,GREAT. IF ‘YOU’ ARE ABLE TO MAKE HIS STUFF WORK FOR YOU,GREAT. IF NOT,GREAT. NOONE PUT A GUN TO YOUR HEAD. HE HAS’NT SET OUT TO RUIN ANY OF OUR LIVES. ANYWAY,ENOUGH OF THAT. I WILL STILL PROBABLY BUY HIS COURSE AND HOPE THAT IT’S WHAT I’M LOOKING FOR.
LASTLY,MISS LAUREN,IF INDEED YOUR BROTHER WAS NOT AFFECTED BY SOME OF THESE COMMENTS MADE THEN I DOUBT THAT HE WOULD HAVE HAD YOU SIGN ON HERE TO WRITE ON HIS BEHALF. MY POINT IN SAYING THAT IS,EVERYONE HAS FEELINGS THAT CAN BE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED TO SOME DEGREE SO LET’S TRY TO JUST BE RESPECTFUL & CONCENTRATE ON WHAT’S REALLY IMPORTANT SHALL WE?
BTW- HEY BEN,I THINK ELY’S ‘HOT CHICK’ HAS A NAME AND IF HIS MATERIAL STINKS SO BADLY THEN YOU MAY OUGHT TO GET YOUR 50 BUCKS BACK HUH?
Yea that Preston Ely.. what a Joke…
Wait a minute.. hold up.. I did hold over half a million in checks he got from his bank in my hand and I did see that they ALL had his business name on them.
As soon as someone raises their head above the crowd, someone is going to take a swipe at it. It’s been happening since the caveman with the big stick wanted the nicer cave and it’ll continue onward as long as free enterprise exists.
Colin Andrews Egbert
P.S. Cool blog you have set up Bryan.. well done…
There goes another one of Preston’s “guru” friends. I am willing to bet that a bunch of these posts were from people told to put some \awesome stuff\ on your blog about Preston. And who do you think told them to do that?….I wonder!
I disagree, Colin. There are many expert real estate trainers out there who have an equal stack of real estate profit checks but who aren’t voyeurs like Presto! Marko Rubel is one. What a classy guy–top to bottom. I doubt it would even enter his mind to put a video of himself making out with his wife on YouTube. And I’ve seen his wife; she’s gorgeous.
But, hey, I enjoy Presto’s emails. He funny.
Preston’s wholesaling course is only about half content. The other half is rah-rah walk with God motivational stuff. The content half has huge holes that a newbie would not know about and could get hurt by not knowing. There is much more to wholesaling than just: Get it off the market with an assignable contract for $10, shop it to someone else for a huge assignment fee, do it all over with the next seller.
There is simply no way that any motivated seller would agree to take their property off the market for several months in exchange for a *refundable* $100 earnest money deposit. Motivated sellers want a *commitment* from a buyer to buy the property, which means substantial earnest money deposit or option consideration fee, and there is very little wiggle room for the buyer to get out of the deal.
Motivated sellers don’t care about who buys the property as long as the property is bought within a reasonable timeframe. Contract assignments are alright when the buyer demonstrates good faith effort to get the property sold. However, lack of good faith is legally actionable (i.e., the seller can sue the buyer for not trying hard enough to close the deal — regardless of “liquidated damages” clause for the earnest money deposit).
Well, I did recieve his free ebook and did get some valuable information. He did leave some loose ends though. That’s perfectly fine. I’m not looking for someone to give me all of the answers. I’m willing to work for my business.
Overall, I think he’s a pretty cool guy. I don’t know him personally so I’m not going to judge him. A lot of people talk about his arrogance…he got your attention didn’t he? Isn’t that the point of marketing?
The Real Estate Guru Club is a tight clique. Whether a guru is new to guru’g or part of the Old Boys Network, they stick together because, in their view, there are lots of suckers out there; plenty for everyone.
There are a few that are NOT cut from the same cloth. In my opinion, they are:
Bruce Norris
Marko Rubel
John Behle
David Butler
Lonnie Scruggs
Bryan Ellis
Why are they not necessarily in the Club? Because they provide long term experience and don’t charge an arm and a leg for it. They provide excellent customer service and, from the attitude they convey at their training events, you know they care about their customers’ success.
They don’t make horse’s asses out of themselves by posting outrageous videos on YouTube for the amusement of their fellow gurus.
Onassi on August 5th, 2008 at 1:50 pm - “I have recived a 10% respond rate on the mailers itself( not bad for sending only 25 letters)”.
I’m still trying to figure out your math. A 10% response on 25 letters is 2.5 (explain this .5 please!) If you want to amend your post to 8% (two people) or 12% (three people) it would at least make sense. But don’t bother, because you lost any credibility you might have had.
I got his book, and when you get it you end up getting his probate book too. The books are good.
Preston is a clown type person, likes to have fun, and I think you mistake ego, for his style of being somewhat sarcastic.
He does kind of enjoy teasing persons, but when he really gets down to real estate he does a good job, but hes going to clown and be sarcastic here and there in what he does, its just his style.
I would not of ordered the book, except 1. He got a good recomendation and review from Larry Goins, who I respect, and 2. I accidentally got into the wrong area of his web site and found a recording on probates, and it was cool and good, he finally impressed me.
If he had sales material with samples from that, I think you all would order, but unfortuantely the clowning puts many persons where they think the product is going to just be more of the same, I konw thats what I thought at first.
I am glad I ordered the book. Its good and brings out some points that other books do not. It does not have a contract, or anything about contracts in the book, so I would say this is not going to get a complete new person a good start by itself.
So I would give the book a rating of 9 on a scale of 10.
And Bryan, why not get the book, and review it yourself? I think all of you would have your opinions changed.
The point of this page isn’t for me to tell you my opinion. For all you know, I’m just another guy trying to get into the “guru club” and so maybe my opinion is biased. The point of this page is for the general public to discuss this issue for their own benefit, and I’ll just moderate the discussion. Besides, while I don’t spend a lot of time flaunting my own real estate experience, I will say that I’ve wholesaled more than my fair share of properties and am pretty darn good at it
— Bryan Ellis
Bryan,
I bought 1 of his e-books and got the probate book for free. Some of the probate stuff was good and some wasn’t helpful. The information wasnt listed at the courthouse as he said it would be. Is that his fault or just a difference in how different states file their information? I dont know. What I do know is that it was worth the $47 paid to learn how to wholesale and get info on probates.
What I dont like about Preston and a lot of the other gurus [ Preston is the worst ] is that they will tell you ANYTHING or do ANYTHING to get you to buy their products.
I wanted to write before to say this, but I blew it off. Then I see what Bryan is saying about sending people in to hype him up. I’ve seen him do this before and this is what I was going to write about. The clown act is a bit much. He wants people to think he’s down to earth and has a fun side. Im sure a lot of people fell for it. I guess this type of “Marketing” himself is working to an extent. The girly fingernail polish, wigs, showing off of his “okay” girlfriend, and over the top religious quotes are all a bit too much for me. I believe in God as much if not more than the next guy, but when Im looking at your investment information, thats all I need to know about. But since most people believe as much as we do, and are happy to know that he is good young man that believes in God, they’ll be the next ones to fall for this other form of his “Marketing” techniques.
Sam, I dont have to look him in the eye to know what type of person someone is. All I need to do is work with them. When they send people in [ to FreeRealEstateTraining.com] to make them look good, he’s showing us just how arrogant he is. From Bryans info, we know this to be a fact. When they have to show you or tell you 20 times in an email how much money he makes, how good “He Thinks” his girlfriend looks, or 75 times per ebook how sexy “He Thinks” he is, there’s a HUGE arrogance problem. If you cant see that, you’re probably on the payroll.
Thanks for letting me vent Bryan. The Most Helpful Investment Info I have gotten or will ever get will be from FreeRealEstateTraining.com
P.S. Please dont ever do the black polish!!
I initially subscribed to his email newsletters several months ago…but, postponed w/in 1 month…Here’s why…His presumptious and arrogant nature really turned me off..He persona is that of a carnival ” Master of Ceremonies” Ringleader on continous tour…
His very narcisstic attitude is rather repulsive and that of a quintessential thespian straight out of “Hollyweard”…His appeal to the younger generation can be very attracting…However, to the older more mature, seasoned and benevolent investors …I think not…The Ely Preston Road Show will always fill the void to a particular niche…” King of Wholesaling” …class jocular at best…
I have no problem looking Preston in the eye and telling him has arrogant, no one needs to act like he does and show off pictures of his girlfriend…
I’ve publicly challenged Preston and he never took me up on it. So what does that say about this guy?
I did this for a few reason, mostly I wanted to see if he would respond or just ignore my challenge, like most of them when you need help there not there so I thought if I put a challenge out there I thought it would be interesting to see if I get a response or not. I never did get a response from Preston, or Tim Mai, or Paul Wells who teaches short sales. I figured they would at least call me or respond. So, I guess this tells me there not interested in my success but mostly in what they are selling. I’m Preston product does work, but those that got the product where they able to do this from what there read and listen to or did they have to seek coaching and spend more money, did the course give them direction, step by step process, how to market, what to look for, did it provide you with systems to make this a business so you can make money in the business, systems like web sites, voice mail, where to buy signs from… etc… systems are important, you can buy a McDonalds and almost guarantee your successes, but if you don’t have the systems and tools to make the burgers your dead in the water… this is what I mean by systems. I’d like to know how many people purchased Preston stuff and went out and made this happen…because that is the person I’d like to talk to…
Preston learned from Mike Collins who’s been doing this for over 25 years. I find it strange how these so called gurus go from one thing to another and then have new course out… How do they do that so fast? If I was going to learn probate it would be from one of the other gurus that have more knowledge and experience…
Where do you think Preston learned it from…? Nothing wrong with sharing the knowledge but to me it seems these guru are making there money off people like me and you, selling there courses and charging allot of money for there coaching that you have no guarantee. If I was going to learn Wholesaling I would go to Mike Collins, it only makes sense to go to the guy that taught Preston, plus Mike isn’t as arrogant as Preston is… I’m sure he can back it up… but its how he comes across I think is what turns most people away or at least me.
I’m not saying there is nothing wrong with these guys making money off there programs or benefiting with getting out there to teach others. The issue I find is most of these guys have no support when you buy there course which I think some should be included, also most of the programs are so vague…They may know the real estate business, but may not know the educational business with properly teaching others. I really don’t think any of them care if you make it or not. I also understand they need to make money for there time, but to charge $ 10,000.00 or more for this training and you have no guarantee or any way to monitor if a person is going out there and doing this wrong is like putting a doctors bag in someone’s hand to do heart surgery after they attended a 3 day training event.
The other thing that bugs me is these guys all become like one big guru community sharing there products and making money off each others products, from my understanding they earn 50% from products they promote on these webinar they host.
I often wonder how many of these gurus tried out this other guy’s product to see if it really provided the knowledge and the meat and potatoes that most people look for or is there course just as vague, also they all seem to me on auto pilot but yet do not want to share that with you and me. Before I promoted a product as a guru I want to make sure it’s good, it provides the knowledge and information so a person can be successful with using the system. I don’t think they really care as long as there making there 50% from promoting some TOM, DICK and HARRY’S Real Estate System…
It’s also strange how each of these guys all of a sudden have some new idea or some new real estate secret they forgot to tell us so they want to SUCK us into there webinar to only promote more CRAP we don’t need and most will buy and do nothing with.
One last thing… I would think that if these gurus want to see consistency in this business then they should be getting together and designing educational products to help people succeed and for them to make sure there is consistence with in the training they all provide with doing short sales for example I’ve seen some inconsistency among what is being taught out there.
Steve
Hi Bryan,
Love getting your e-mails (sorry for the fluff!) I have not purchased any of the gurus “stuff” (not sure how a person even becomes known as a guru!) nor have I responded to a post- ever! I have been caught in Elys funnel and took me forever to opt out.
However, I thought it was important to point out, that if someone has been labeled a guru then they have an obligation to the students and especially to the “newbies” who want to become investors NOT to teach them “marketing! ”
With the internet, Of course, it is easier to move properties, and the branding, wordpress and all of that is important and having different portals to offer “your” property for a buyer is great . however marketing is secondary to real estate investing. Marketing is not real estate investing!
With all the automation, and lead captures, and “get hundreds of leads, leads, leads in your mail box everyday”.HIP-Hip HURRAY. or you put an ad out and get 5 “we want to buy your property, please submit the form” and its the same form from 5 different people.. humm..can you see where if this continues what is meant to simplify investing only ends up hindering?
I am no longer able to tell who is THE BUYER! or the seller for that matter. Not so long ago I used to weed through callers info to find if they were a “motivated seller”. Now my time is spent on silly questions trying to figure out if the person contacting me is a buyer or a seller, or what part they play in investing, Do you have funds? are you wanting the property info for your own investing or to put on some web 2.0, 3.0. or what ever that is. then following up with them to see if they are still interested only to finding out that not only were they not the buyer, they didn’t even have a buyer they were working with. YIKES!
The newbies we work with, we tell them to forget what they have learned, Do NOT tell home owners you can close in 30days if you are flipping a contract. Be honest tell them tell them what you do. Fact: there are too many homeowners and investors in distressed situations to give false promises.
And YES! the Golden Rule does apply in real estate.
There is a lot of money to be made in real estate, and no one knows how long our window of opportunity is open . Not sure how much they make off of there products. I do know sky is the limit in real estate right now..All seasoned investors should be giving back, funding the deals of newbie investors, mentoring then splitting profits, instead of taking all of their money for training, creating Free e-books and way too many automated programs.
What investors should be taught, besides the fundamentals is that right now they need to be building strong relationships. The investors who still respond to e-mails, phone calls and have coffee with bird dogs, wholesaler, investors and “qualified BUYERS” are going to be in a strong position when the market turns. NOW is the time to buy..
Sorry, Little cranky just spent the last two hours responding to “marketers” or “wholesalers” (cant tell anymore.) next time I will be more fun..
Again …love your e-mails.
Lisa Martin
The Investor Connector llc
“No man can rise to fame and fortune without bringing others along with him, it simply can not be done”– Napoleon Hill
After giving Preston Ely just a few dollars short of $6000.00 for his coaching program for 12mnths. where he partners with you for a split commision to analize your wholesale deals and tells you to make an offer of 45% below FMV. Then send your deals to his outsourced closing/title co. after you find the end buyer. By the way his #1 top student does the analysing.
After going through a few weeks of this course and spending a bunch of money on his marketing campaign suggestions, I sent him an email explaining my dilemma: no investors to sell wholesale/quick flip deals to in my farm area and I would like a credit for this coaching program( his original sales pitch, mind you was,” this works in every area of the US”). His response was , sorry no credit, my system does work and if it is not working in your area just work another area where it will work. He went on to explain how his buddy ,Chico, who lives in south Florida has gone virtual and I should consider that.
In a return email, I questioned his labeling himself a Christian and his self labeled relationship with God.
I could go on and on, but bottom line is this guy is in for a rude awakening. Yes we all need money and want it to serve us instead of us serving it, but this character is a perfect example of the verse, MONEY is the root of all evil. I try never to forget, whatever you sow, you will reap.
This young rich cockey ruler will eventually be knocked off his throne and his empire will crash and he will be judged for all his anttic —-PRIDE COMMETH BEFORE THE FALL my friends.
One might say, that is your opinion, and this is true, but I was once young and foolish and had to learn things that hopefully he will also learn before hurting to many others.
For what it’s worth,
Tim Treon
Hi Tim and everyone - let me be clear with you: I have no first-hand experience with Preston Ely. I have no reason whatsoever to speak positively or negatively about him, and nobody who reads this should leave with the impression that I’m making a judgment about him in any way. Regardless, I’m very sorry to hear about your experience, Tim. I guess all I’d say is try to keep the dialogue with him open, and maybe a good solution will come to light. — Bryan Ellis
Hi Bryan,
I have ordered Prestons eBook about wholesaling, and been to to many of his webinars. I thought the book was real plain jane and certainly did not learn anything about wholesaling that I had not learned already from free eBooks or real estate website forums. I put up with the arrogance of his persona for a while and finally ended up unsubscribing from all his emails. I just got tired of the false hope and there is a group of guru’s that they all seem to be in a large click with each other and all they do is come out with new ways to promote each other and that got old !! Now I just learned about a website site that you can run a check number on to see if its real. Ill have to go back and check on those checks he shows in his emails and websites.
There are many B.S. artist on the web and if you can bust them in a lie before you decide to buy their product chances are you can save yourself from getting suckered into a mistake.
Thanks
Thanks for your comments Jeff. Allow me to clearly state: I have no reason to think that Preston is being misleading, or that the checks are false or anything like that. It sounds like Jeff has a pretty strong opinion to which he’s entitled, but let me go on record as saying that I personally have no suspicions of the sort. As I’ve said previously, I don’t know Preston Ely and have no reason to doubt him.
Having said that, I totally agree with Jeff about one thing: The current style is for all of the “gurus” to aggressively promote each other’s products. The promotion that happened last week for Than Merrill was astounding for that reason. I’m sure Than did very well, and I suspect he provides good value to his clients. But I also suspect that as 2009 rolls on, that a “backlash” will develop among internet savvy real estate investors who are sick of seeing the same email sent over and over again. I’ve heard from MANY people who are royally disgusted by it. — Bryan Ellis
Hi Bryan,
I’m so glad to see that my thinking (or what I was getting sick of) is in line with the masses. I think your absolutely right in your reply. If I can mention some names as my opinion whom I transferred to they are the educators instead of guru’s such as James Orr, Steve Cook, Peter Conti, and the funny thing is,is that there seems to be a different age group. The young ones who are just sending emails to everyone elses webinars or products and the older ones who are really trying to educate. Its refreshing.
I met Preston for the first time last weekend. I think I had heard through the grapevine one time about him, but had never met him. We were at a conference of many speakers and real estate website owners and promoters. I decided at break I would go up and meet him. I introduced myself and handed him my card….he said something like “uh yeah” and turned on his heels and walked away. (no he didn’t hand me his card) Sorry, but i have been in real estate for about as long as this kid has been alive. A little high on himself for my taste. Come on get down and get real and be approachable. You are no better than anyone else.
my 2 cents.
Im a 25 year industry veteran. Ive seen it all. I knew many of the 70s - 80s real estate gurus. I was swept up in Prestons hype and committed to his probate system which costs $6,000. I am BITTERLY disappointed. Its almost nothing but ‘put out hand written signs on street corners’ (where they will be cut up , taken down, or actually get you a fine from the city) and then offer a low ball price. To begin with, even though its a bad market, few probates need to do that. Most are from elderly people who didnt have large loans and can sell w/o huge discounts.
Right after I started with Preston, he disappeared for a long time and wasnt even around in his own blogs. Many had questions. This program was pushed as being the be-all and end-all of programs for making money and almost nothing was given about it before having to pay. Im not going to tell you who I am but many people know me and this isnt some shill post. I am being totally fair. His probate post is old news for different times and only has a chance in some markets. Its definitely not worth the money. No way. I could charge people $6,000 and tell them to go work divorces, bankruptcies, whatever, and make super low offers to the owners. For that matter, I offer you all the following advice and I want you to all send me $6,000. Ready?
BUY LOW SELL HIGH. OK defend that, Preston.
Thanks for your comment. So that there’s no doubt, this comment doesn’t necessarily reflect anyone’s opinions but the specific person who made the comment. — Bryan Ellis
I am a realestate wholesaler from Fort Myers, FL. I have purchased Preston’s Flip Your Way To Financial Freedom and Probates By Preston and both were helpful. As a matter of fact, I recieved a FREE probate e-book with “Flip Your Way” and that alone was worth the price of the course. The probate cases I needed were ALL available at the courthouse. I live in a pretty small market. I then hired a lady to pull the cases for $100.00 a month!! I do nothing but make probate deals. I made about $180,000 last year JUST using Preston’s information. Yeah, the ego thing is cheese, but the information he provides is worth so much because his courses are cheap and give you ALL the info you need to get started. I haventdone the coaching, but I’m sure he gives value. He triesto be flamboyent to keep people interested I guess. He also introduced me To Nathan Jurewics, and Lee Kearney the hottest shortsale and REO (respectively) investors in the country right now. He`knows where the market is going and gives subscribers the information theyneed to make it.
Thanks for your comments, and congratulations on your success! I suspect Preston will temper his style over time as he becomes more mature in business and life. But I’m glad to hear that you were successful with his information. — Bryan Ellis
I’ve met Preston and made small talk 2-3 times. Our personalities are very different, but I think that’s irrelevant so far as his products’ value is concerned. I would buy real estate courses from Karl Marx himself if it had great content.
I have not read his newsletter so I can’t comment on that, not have I tried or used any of his products.
I have heard several other gurus mention that in their dealings with him, he has done everything he promised them with integrity, and I’d like to think that integrity with one group of people would be the case with his customers as well, since people are usually shady or honorable in general.
I like the idea of ratings, and it is the direction that the web is going whether I like it or not. But it is kind of scary that unreasonable customers could say something bad about an marketer and influence other people, or that the same could be done to give false reviews in their favor.
Thanks for moderating these comments and asking people to give specifics and not just lame opinions like “he sucks” or “he rules”
I’m a student of Preston’s. He over-delivers and is an over achiever. He has an abundance mentality and does not create post headings which, by their wording, make one think another industry professional may be a rip off. I was going to purchase your materials but based on this one thing you have decided to do, will be removing you from my list.
I suggest that you purchase Preston’s materials and then you can learn how to make your mentality from that of lack to that of abundance and make the world a better place as Preston Ely continues to do.
Best of luck to you!
Hey Stewart - I’m having difficulty refraining from questioning your ability to read. Did you even read my post on this page? Was the part where I said “I make no judgment for or against Preston Ely” the part that bothered you? Geez. I’ve noticed that a substantial portion of Preston’s followers simply refuse to read before responding. That’s quite telling, isn’t it? — Bryan Ellis
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